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Post by LyssaR on Mar 2, 2014 19:59:58 GMT
Yeah the TV guide article that just came out. Here it is--> link Basically the writers are trying to clean up what they did. So since the S2 finale was suppose to be the end, obviously they will end it with charlex. We all know that would happen. But now since they have another season, they have to "fix" it. And with that TV guide article, a couple things bothered me. First they said,"The love triangle is central to the show" Umm what? Its so central that they just started it in the middle of S2. All jalex got was a kiss. Plus Joel and Alex didn't even talk about it afterwards. And they also said, "the relationship between Charlie and Alex, and the triangle with Joel is almost their bread and butter—and that Season 3 will stick with that." I have no freaking clue how they will keep Joel in the triangle, but I can assure it will be random with no continuity what so ever.
Oh but the worst is this "Brebner teases “the ghosts won’t be going anywhere” but that anything–Alex taking over for Charlie or ending up in a coma the way he did in Season 1–is a possibility." Oh boy.... Now how the heck are they suppose to do jalex with that storyline. It would be all about charlex, cause he would be the only one that would be able to interact with her. It would be stupid if they do this. That being said, I could see them doing this. Overall i think the writers have to know that jalex is getting popular. Its has to be clear to them now, or else they wouldn't have made that finale trailer like that, and they wouldn't have bs their way in that TV guide article. Whether they like it is another story, they are putting so much into charlex, trying to force this couple on. But I think they will have to accept that Jalex is hot and the fanbase is growing.And well I don't know that many charlex fans, but i heard they are all on facebook apparently. I agree. Don't know how they'll manage to do but if they want to keep the triangle alive they have to give more room for Joel/Alex to develop and exist. Also, they are obviously lying when they say that " [...] the triangle with Joel is almost their bread and butter—and that Season 3 will stick with that". I think they were the first surprised when they saw how fast Jalex became popular and all the buzz it generated, and now they are trying to milking it. So the chalex fans are on facebook, their official SH page I guess? I shouldn't be surprise, I read a lot of Joel/Alex fans complaining about the SH official page on twitter because they are biased towards Charlie/Charlex. If the jalex fans want to be heard they have to be louder because it feels like the Charlie/Alex fans are more active on Twitter but maybe I'm wrong. Jalex is still "new" though and seeing how fast it became popular among the viewers is a good thing, next season I think there will be even more fans if the writers stop trying to shove Chalex down our throats and give a real chance to Jalex. That interview was total BS, Liz - I mean all these talk about love triangles and blah, blah, blah. Huh, if the SH s2 finale was written even before s3 was picked up, then it was obvious that Chalex was supposed to be the endgame. Yes, so they did write the Jalex kiss, but it was less of a love triangle, and more of making use of DG. Because Alex might have kissed Joel back, but then in the next episode, it was like nothing really happened. Dunno why Alex even bothered to kiss Joel back, because it didn't look like the kiss made any difference and Alex was all about pining for Charlie soon after. Which brings me to Lyssa's question: yep, what was the point of the Jalex kiss? Honestly, I feel like the writers are keeping DG around for his star power, but not really interested in Joel as a character or Jalex as a couple. Maybe DG should push for more screen time and importance in the lead relationships. Otherwise, I really don't see why DG should put up with this show, 'cause looks like he will get blamed for what happened to Alex . Well they won't have the choice, Jalex is becoming almost as popular as Chalex (maybe even more) and they can't alienate half of their fanbase. If they are smart they'll use DG as much as they can on the show (and when reading that TVguide article I think that's what they are going to do in S3). I was also really disappointed with the way the writers treated the outcome of the Jalex kiss and the lack of mention, but I recently read and that keep the door open for Jalex is that little scene between Alex and Dawn when she told Alex how "her heart traces are going crazy" after her talk with Joel. This means that Alex feels something for him even is she's still in denial. It's great! It's a small step but it's a step in the right direction imo.
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Post by liz on Mar 2, 2014 22:51:27 GMT
I agree. Don't know how they'll manage to do but if they want to keep the triangle alive they have to give more room for Joel/Alex to develop and exist. Also, they are obviously lying when they say that " [...] the triangle with Joel is almost their bread and butter—and that Season 3 will stick with that". I think they were the first surprised when they saw how fast Jalex became popular and all the buzz it generated, and now they are trying to milking it. If they are doing that, then I think will see could more Joel in S3 and also with Jalex. More Joel= more buzz. That being said, DG's fanbase is huge and I wouldn't be surprised if SH PTB takes advantage of that. PTB minds are on ratings too. So considering the finale got like 1.6 million, more than last season's finale. I have to say that is has a lot to do with how they promoted the finale. Yes, that includes showing Joel and Alex kiss to be quite effective imo. That interview was total BS, Liz - I mean all these talk about love triangles and blah, blah, blah. Huh, if the SH s2 finale was written even before s3 was picked up, then it was obvious that Chalex was supposed to be the endgame. Yes, so they did write the Jalex kiss, but it was less of a love triangle, and more of making use of DG. Because Alex might have kissed Joel back, but then in the next episode, it was like nothing really happened. Dunno why Alex even bothered to kiss Joel back, because it didn't look like the kiss made any difference and Alex was all about pining for Charlie soon after. Which brings me to Lyssa's question: yep, what was the point of the Jalex kiss? Honestly, I feel like the writers are keeping DG around for his star power, but not really interested in Joel as a character or Jalex as a couple. Maybe DG should push for more screen time and importance in the lead relationships. Otherwise, I really don't see why DG should put up with this show, 'cause looks like he will get blamed for what happened to Alex . Excellent point Nat. I think DG probably did push for more screen time and even a better storyline, Like you said, why would he come back? PTB has to give him something to stay. Cause I think PTB knows they need him. Well they won't have the choice, Jalex is becoming almost as popular as Chalex (maybe even more) and they can't alienate half of their fanbase.If they are smart they'll use DG as much as they can on the show (and when reading that TVguide article I think that's what they are going to do in S3) Your right, they can't alienate the other half and if they are smart they will use Joel a lot, and that means putting him with Alex too. Well we know two things from that scene with Dawn, like you said, she still has feelings for him but she does not want to admit it. If PTB will still do some Jalex then they will play on that. But what really gets me, is that they were going to end it like that for the "series finale". Alex having feelings for Joel while still going to end up with Charlie. Nothing addressed which leads to a very poorly executed "series finale" imo. So hopefully they can do things right next time around. And end it with Jalex... hehe
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Post by Natalie Emms on Mar 3, 2014 15:17:10 GMT
Just saw the Oscar red carpet and post event party images. So many actors/actresses that I doubt most ppl even know them. But what makes me sad is that ED is probably not even considered a candidate to attend such an event.
She was so good as Lois Lane that I was very hopeful her career would really flourish after SV and that she'd end up in Hollywood. Even if not in big budget movies, but maybe in small indie films.
Well, I guess one never knows. Maybe there's still time.
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Post by LyssaR on Mar 3, 2014 20:29:21 GMT
If they are doing that, then I think will see could more Joel in S3 and also with Jalex. More Joel= more buzz. That being said, DG's fanbase is huge and I wouldn't be surprised if SH PTB takes advantage of that. PTB minds are on ratings too. So considering the finale got like 1.6 million, more than last season's finale. I have to say that is has a lot to do with how they promoted the finale. Yes, that includes showing Joel and Alex kiss to be quite effective imo. ITA. The trailer was totally misleading with that Jalex kiss but at least it did brought a lot of viewers. Oh I'm sorry my last sentence meant nothing lol I'm glad you understood what I was trying to say though Also, how do we know that the S2 was supposed to be the serie finale? It's the first time I hear about this. And why would have they choosen to end SH on a cliffhanger? I would love to see SH ending with Jalex but it won't happen imo. Charlex (and their questionable chemistry) has always been the writers priority. @ Natalie : Aw I would love seeing ED attend the Oscar/GG/Emmy (well any awards actually) on the red carpet in a gorgeous gown... Maybe one day.
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Post by liz on Mar 4, 2014 2:20:09 GMT
Oh I'm sorry my last sentence meant nothing lol I'm glad you understood what I was trying to say though Also, how do we know that the S2 was supposed to be the serie finale? It's the first time I hear about this. And why would have they choosen to end SH on a cliffhanger?
I would love to see SH ending with Jalex but it won't happen imo. Charlex (and their questionable chemistry) has always been the writers priority. In the TV guide article they mentioned that they did not know they were going to get a S3 when they did the finale, so they thought S2 was going to be the end. You could even say that was BS too. Cause yeah, why would they leave loose ends on both jalex and charlex? It really didn't make sense and that's why I brought it up. Oh I was joking about SH ending it with Jalex. They wont, I know that it will be charlex. And I agree with you girls. Maybe one day Erica will be able to go to the Oscars and wear a beautiful gown Never say never.
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Post by Natalie Emms on Mar 4, 2014 10:13:43 GMT
Totally off-topic, but that Oscar selfie of Ellen with all those celebraties - everybody looking all happy and looking like a bunch of bffs having fun together - is probably my all time favorite image of Hollywood stars !!! And I didn't even know I shipped Emma Watson and Joseph Gordon-Levitt until I saw the two together at the Oscars. They should so make a movie together .
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Post by liz on Mar 5, 2014 20:35:26 GMT
I saw a little bit of the Oscars. And I have to agree with you Nat. Emma Watson and JGL are so adorable. Like everyone on the internet has been obsessed with them all at the same time, its crazy. I think they have to be in something together in the future, I mean you could see the chemistry from your tv screen. Hollywood needs to make that happen
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Post by Natalie Emms on Mar 6, 2014 6:39:55 GMT
No more images from VT? I was bored and out of curiosity, I decided to check up on redheads, haha. So apparently what's considered red hair looks awfully close to what we call ginger hair.
Hmm, that particular shade would have most likely made ED look all pale and washed out. Still, I wish her hair was not so dark. Hopefully, it'll look much redder in the movie. Also, since VT filming is over, I wonder if ED will change back to her original hair color for SH s3. Or if she'll do another guest role as redhead before SH begins shooting.
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Post by liz on Mar 8, 2014 8:18:53 GMT
Don't know if anyone has seen ED's new profile pic, but for those who haven't here it is. She looks great with that hair color. I hope she leaves her hair that way for SH.
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Post by Natalie Emms on Mar 8, 2014 14:38:13 GMT
Just saw it and was about to post the image, haha.
I dunno if this was the same for VT or whether she changed to a darker shade now; if yes, then I'm slightly disappointed since I was hopping for a redder/ginger look.
Although it does look better than in SH, but the thing is, ED always looks better off-screen than in SH. In the talk shows for promoting SH, ED looks way better even though her look is always simple. It's only in SH that Alex is given a pale and bland look, though just a little tweaking (esp the colors - SH is just so blue, if that makes sense) with hair and make-up and clothing can brighten up Alex vastly.
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Post by liz on Mar 8, 2014 19:59:53 GMT
Yeah I would have like to see it redder to in VT. But oh well..
And yes Erica always looks really good outside of SH. Like you said, when she is in SH they make her pale and bland as possible. What I find interesting, is all the other girl doctors on SH have makeup on and don't look pale and bland. So they can do that with ED,but they are choosing not to. I mean this is a TV show, not real life. They should really consider making Alex look more livelier and not look like a patient.
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Post by Natalie Emms on Mar 9, 2014 12:47:39 GMT
Well, even if the hair is not as red as I wanted, it'd still be a great experience as a viewer if the movie actually turned out really good - on TV or not. I so wanna see ED in something that I find interesting, and VT book summary sounds very good. So, yeah, if the movie was well executed, I think I'll enjoy it a lot. And I'm with you about SH ladies, Liz. Melanda aside, I like the look of the other ladies in SH. Sure, Sonja is not a doctor so maybe PTB thinks if she wears bright colors. But what about Dana or Dawn or Maggie? Maggie has this cute look going on, which totally suits her. Dawn is proud and haughty, and MN got it perfect. But Dana, man - she's like a femme fatale in SH. WC is so much older than ED, and yet Dana has more swag than Alex in SH. Okay, so Alex went through a traumatizing experience in s1, and maybe she's still not better ( because she's not with Charlie ), but like you said - it TV, not real life. Plus, I think the characterization is also something that makes Alex boring. Not because I ship Jalex, but that car-smashing scene was one of the best Alex scenes I've seen in SH. That's the kind of character I was hoping Alex would be throughout the show - dealing with the trauma in a kick-ass way, not moping and crying all the time. Okay, okay, rant over .
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Post by liz on Mar 11, 2014 6:22:09 GMT
Well, even if the hair is not as red as I wanted, it'd still be a great experience as a viewer if the movie actually turned out really good - on TV or not. I so wanna see ED in something that I find interesting, and VT book summary sounds very good. So, yeah, if the movie was well executed, I think I'll enjoy it a lot. As long as its a decent movie than ill be happy. Cause I'll be honest, im not really expecting it to be a superb film. Not with these kinds of TV films imo. Great rant Nat I think your spot on. They made Alex boring and plain as her character, therefore she has to look the part. That's who she is and that's what their showing the audience through her look. Honestly at this point I would love it if in S3 Alex comes back to life and is totally a different person. Like she has a breakthrough and realizes she didn't like who she was(boring and lame) and wanted to be a stronger, fun person. Who in fact dresses better and wears make-up lol.
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Post by Natalie Emms on Mar 11, 2014 7:42:44 GMT
Liz, I guess you're right - VT will probably not be a good movie. Maybe same as Gemelle, though ED gave a powerful performance there. Too bad everything else about that movie was awful. Well, at least, the VT cast looks good, lol. As for SH, I've no expectation. I mean, they said s3 will pick up where s2 left off, so more boring angst I think. However, one thing I wanna know is whether Alex will remember anything when she comes back to life or not. I mean, everyone else forgets, so what about Alex? Either the Chalex love is too strong and Alex will remember everything ...or maybe Alex will forget but feel like something is off everytime she's near Charlie, and so, slowly move on from him. Personally, I hope for the latter ; though the show might take an entirely different course. I just wish we'd see more of the Alex who was smashing cars and such. We've had Superman and vampire references in SH already, so how about a Lois Lane one? Maybe next time, Alex heads to see a monster truck rally to let off steam . And yeah, please have the girl let down her hair, both literally and figuratively. Yes, as a doctor, the blue scrubs and ponytail/buns are required, but put her in some other color when she's not on duty. There's just so much black and blue one can endure. Plus, nothing drastic, but a little eye-liner and a cherry lip-gloss will not hurt anyone, I'm sure. Also, how about some more eye-catching jewelry? Alex wears a chain and studs in her ears, but how about taking some inspiration for Alex from ED herself? The pendent she wears in her current pro pic in twitter will look good when Alex is shown outside the hospital. Same for some hoops in her ears. I mean, the following two images of Erica are really pretty, even though she's not caked in maked-up or hidden beneath jewelry. Both these looks will be great for Alex too. (Images courtesy of EDTV: ericadurance.tv/2014/03/05/erica-starts-off-the-year-promoting-saving-hope-in-toronto/)
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Post by liz on Mar 15, 2014 8:13:14 GMT
I expect VT to be mediocre at best. And your right Nat at lease the cast will look good. And does anyone know when the movie will air? I'm curious that's all. So with regards to SH, I have a feeling they are going to do that storyline in the TV article they mentioned. Where they make Alex stay in a coma and becomes like Charlie where she can talk to other ghost. And considering that's possibly the worst storyline they could do, I think PTB will do it. Ha yes! What better way to keep Alex's look bland and plan than making her a ghost. Ugh.. I mean I could be wrong and it could be one of Nat's scenarios, which I would hope for. Well the one scenario where Alex does not remember what happen and wants to stay away from Charlie. But with this show it's best to keep low expectations. Very low, almost non existent. Also Alex's clothing, my gosh there ugly . I agree the blue and black is now getting awful to me. The way she dresses outside of work, its so bad. For next season I would take any improvement on Alex. Literally any.. on her make-up, hair, personality, wardrobe. Give that woman a full makeover please.
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